Interview with Jay Richards, a forensic psychologist and author of SILHOUETTE OF VIRTUE.
This interview is courtesy of the publicist.
What made you want to write a book after decades working as a forensic psychologist?
Actually, I tinkered around with writing fiction for decades. I say tinker, but I was deadly serious about it. Sometimes too serious to open up and create without perpetual, harsh self-criticism. At some point, I decided to act on the old injunction “Physician, heal thyself.” I stepped away from my perfectionism and got down to work.
What does a forensic psychologist do?
Forensic psychologists practice psychology in legal contexts. They perform evaluations to answer psycho-legal questions, like: Is a defendant psychologically fit (competent) to participate in a trial? Was their crime a result of the person’s mental illness impairing their ability to know what they were doing or that the act was wrong or illegal? How likely is it that a sexual offender or domestic violence perpetrator will repeat these kinds of crimes? Forensic psychologists also provide forensic treatment. This is similar to clinical treatment for mental disorders or problem behaviors, but the focus is on preventing the recurrence of dangerous behavior.
How have your experiences shaped you as a writer?
My work as a forensic psychologist involves evaluating and treating dangerous people with mental disorders. This work has given me license to be nosy about people at a very deep level, a level of deep wonder about how people experience life. I am always aware that the stakes are high in this work. A risk assessment that is off target or a serious misstep in therapy can obstruct the patient’s progress, expose others to unnecessary risk of violence, or lead to my being assaulted.
Doing intensive forensic assessment and forensic therapy with dangerous people required me to spend long periods of silence across the table from my patients. At times these extended silences were filled with an empty void. But at other times, they were pregnant with something (terrible or fragile) that had a momentum, something that wanted to emerge and take its chances in the external world of speech and action.
This is great writing practice, learning how to sit with powerful emotion—those of your own, those of your patient (or character)—while you work to open up a space for something new. Of course, the exotic, often perplexing personalities I have encountered in this work have contributed to some of my characters, but the experience of sitting with them has informed everything else.
Another experience that shapes my writing is a persistent sense of justice that I’ve had my whole life. Ever since I was a child, I’ve sometimes felt an intense sense that something unfair or unjust was happening to me or to others and that no one would listen. This often led me to writing letters to my parents, teachers, and romantic interests that I was usually wise enough not to send. Writing those letters was cathartic, but they would sometimes become more than self-solace and take off on wings of their own. I would then see my personal complaint as experiential ore for poetry and fiction, stuff that I could refine into something valuable to others through character, story and self-reflective language.
The themes and character development of my fiction parallel this personal process. Key characters often have a poignant awareness of injustice that sparked them to action. Many characters—including some of the criminals—long for completion through a performance or exchange, but the experience continually eludes them until an injustice is addressed.
What made you decide to write fiction in particular?
I decided to write fiction largely because I believed I had an aptitude for it and that this capacity, or talent, came with a responsibility. It’s similar to how the responsibility to stand witness comes from having been present for a significant event and having some degree of unique knowledge about it.
I believe that fiction, like all the arts, is a mode of knowledge. It is valuable because it allows us to feel and perceive in new ways. Those new points of view are often introduced to us by characters who are unlike the people we know in our own lives. And if the characters are familiar to us, we get a more intimate look at them. Fiction brings us “inside” these characters and shows us what the world looks like from their perspective.
Fiction is the one creative art that gives us this inside perspective through language. It is not exact knowledge. It’s more like the kind of knowledge you acquire by intensely playing a game until you dissolve into the flow of it. There is no substitute for fiction, although you don’t need it to live. It doesn’t bake bread, it opens hearts and minds.
What inspired the plot for Silhouette of Virtue?
The plot is loosely based on a series of sexual assaults that actually occurred on the campus of a Midwestern university that I attended in the mid-70s. In the real case, a popular African-American graduate student was accused of being involved in the crimes. Early on, I viewed these happenings as having cultural significance, especially in regard to how it forced students into two camps: one that viewed the charges as racially motivated, and the other that insisted that race had nothing to do with his being a suspect. I observed these events from the fringes, and after I left the university town I got only fragmented glimpses as the chain of events played out over several years. There was no internet and the local papers buried the story, so I had no way to follow it closely. As a result, my imagination was given considerable rein. I bumped up the ante by accelerating the pace of events and by making the both the accused man and the amateur sleuth who tries to find the truth African Americans on the university faculty.
How did people you’ve met in your years of work shape the characters for the book?
In his poem “Little Gidding,” T.S. Eliot writes of a poet who meets “a familiar compound ghost, both intimate and unidentifiable.” I consider the characters in my book combinations of real and imagined people. One of the criminals in the novel is a combination of a close childhood friend, a sadistic patient I had in a therapy group in a forensic hospital, and a black Trickster-figure character (Skeeter) from John Updike’s Rabbit Redux. There’s also a character (with a nod to Superman’s Lex Luther) that is based on an eminent scientist who tries to hide his mean streak and use his authority to mastermind crimes. The protagonist and sleuth, Dr. Nathan Rivers, is the admixture of a perpetual grad student in philosophy who had a noble and compassionate soul, and my impressions of several African-American poets, whom I’ve never met in person. And, oh yes, I shouldn’t forget, a good pinch of Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes in the 1939 film Hound of the Baskervilles.
Do you have plans to write another book soon?
I’m playing with the elements of what may become a sequel to Silhouette of Virtue. It would feature the philosophical sleuth from the first novel, Dr. Nathan Rivers, but in a totally different setting, and perhaps even a different era. I would like that book to have some of the adventure, suspense, detective themes, and investigation of racial and sexual identity (as well as wry humor and parody) that are in Silhouette.
I also have a book in progress. It’s a Bildungsroman along the lines of Joyce’s Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and Haruki Murakami’s Norwegian Wood. It portrays a kind of coming of age story over the course of a decade and captures the tone of culture and society during that passage. The story is set in both America and Africa, and is inspired by my travels in Nigeria during my own coming of age (mid 20s) and my brief friendship with novelist Leon Forrest. Forrest was a writer who was deeply African-American and also somehow African in his sensibility, which was more like that of a lyrical epic poet or African praise singer. Remembering and thinking about him gives me hope that I can pull together something that covers all this territory in an interesting way.
What’s one thing you want people to take away as a message from your book?
A suspense novel tells the story of a mystery about the identity and whereabouts of evildoers. The most important clues are in the aberrant or flawed personalities of the criminals, which are always partially revealed and partially concealed in the crimes they commit. The big message of the Silhouette of Virtue, like many detective mystery stories, is that by trying to untangle a mystery like this, we readers learn more about the mystery that is all around us and within us and others. In other words, the take-home message is that the real world around us is a terrifying, beautiful, and mysterious place and we are part and parcel of that world.
In Silhouette, does your protagonist, Dr. Nathan Rivers, reflect your own view of the world and how it operates?
Yes, I think so, but he acts on that worldview more consistently and courageously than I can. He’s a lot less worried about making big mistakes. Like Rivers, I’ve always been drawn to people of diverse backgrounds, ethnicities, and complexities of all kinds. Also, I’ve always wanted to understand what it means to lead a well-lived life, which is a central motive that drives Rivers in the book. Finally, as a black man myself, I share with Rivers the “double-consciousness” that African Americans often develop as being in the American society, but not of it in many ways. This dual identity frees me, like Rivers, to look at America from “the outside” and propose something that I believe is ultimately more American.
JAY RICHARDS, Ph.D. is a forensic psychologist whose specialty is the evaluation and treatment of violent offenders, such as homicide perpetrators, mentally ill killers, and sexually violent predators. In the field of criminal psychology, he is known for ground-breaking research, innovative and provocative theoretical papers, and evocative and insightful case studies of psychopaths and other mentally disordered offenders. With more than three decades of experience diagnosing and studying psychopaths and sex offenders, Richards offers an authentic portrayal of complex characters. His exploration of moral dilemmas, choices, and character motivations results in a psychological thriller that weaves together the culture and politics of the era with racial tension, mystery, and suspense.
About SILOUETTE OF VIRTUE: It is 1973. A small college town in Southern Illinois is terrorized by a spree of sadistic assaults. The rapist tells the victims, all Asian women, that he is making them pay for Americas betrayal in Vietnam. When the only other Black faculty member is accused of the crimes, African American philosophy professor Nathan Ribs Rivers struggles to suspend his doubts about his colleagues innocence.
Face Rock Press | 344 pages | May 27th 2014 | Paperback
6 comments:
This is so interesting. I studied psychology in college, as a double major on top of my computer science one. I've always been interested in forensics/investigations, so I'm kinda jealous of your job!! Do they keep the people in handcuffs when you're in a room with them? I doubt there'd be a guard with it being therapy (they'd be less likely to talk). Have you ever felt like you were in danger talking to them, threats that weren't exactly idle? And have you ever spoken with a convicted criminal who swears innocence, and believed them? Did you visit prisons for your work, or was it usually conversations before conviction?
I love this idea of blending people you know in real life to create your characters. With all the details you know about each one, you can *really* flush out a character. My favorite kind of character!
In the real case you used as a foundation of Silhouette of Virtue, what was the outcome? Was the accused man convicted?
Hi smiles -
Thank you for your thoughts.
I will forward a note onto the publicist and perhaps we can get a response from the author for your questions.
Thanks again!
That'd be fantastic, Shellie! I absolutely love this kind of stuff (even thought about studying to get into forensics as a career), so it'd be really cool to hear back. Whether I do or not, thank you for reaching out to the publicist!
My fingers are crossed for you smiles -
I thought the interview was fascinating too. One of the reasons why I shared it here. I will be interested in what he has to say as well. Great questions!
Hello smiles and Shellie,
Thank you so much for your questions.
When I conducted treatment review and parole hearing interviews for mentally ill offenders, it was not unusual for them to wear handcuffs and sometimes leg shackles. I usually requested that these restraints be removed. On more than one occasion, this proved to be a mistake. I have conducted interviews through little square peep holes to assess if the person had regained enough control to be in a less extreme setting.
In doing one of my first psychological testing evaluations, my supervisor told me that Mr. X was the kind of person that if he thought he could get my keys and walk out the door, he would attack me without hesitation and do so. I started testing Mr. X with the Rorschach Inkblot Test. The examinee is handed a blot and asked, “What might this be?" On the third card, Mr. X looked away and said in a gravelly voice that was not his usual voice "I don't like this card." I said, "Mr. X, we have done quite a bit today already, why don't we call it a day and get back together sometime soon." During this testing spread out over several days, my tires were punctured. It was my intuition that Mr. X had used a patient with grounds privileges to give me this message about how psychological testing felt to him, like being slashed, and punctured!
Yes, it is sometimes necessary to have a guard in the therapy room, but more frequently outside the door sitting a few feet down the hall is sufficient.
I think I was in the greatest danger from a patient when a man who I was treating in intensive individual psychotherapy arrived for our therapy session eating a pint of ice-cream and sweating profusely on a mild spring day. He had a history of committing two murders and of being a suspect in two others. He had limited ground privileges, and was allowed to walk to my office in another building. This was a timed walk on both ends, so if he did not arrive at his destination within a certain timeframe, security would be alerted to pick him up. It had been our agreement that he would never drink, smoke, or eat during our sessions, and that he would not get up from his chair during a session except to immediately exit the room.
During this particular session, he sauntered in eating the ice-cream with extreme relish and dribbling it on himself. He started telling me about the crazy glue that he had used to repair his dentures, and how this was causing arthritis of the skull. He paced around the room a few times. My decision was to say, "Let’s do something different today, let’s talk as we walk back toward your unit, it’s a nice day." I called his unit with him listening and let them know we would be walking together starting as soon as I hung up the phone. During the walk, he was intermittently incoherent, with some talk about previous violence against people who had betrayed him. I think the episode strengthened our therapeutic relationship, over the long run, but I was taking a moderate risk during that walk.
I have known several convicted felons who I believed were innocent of the at least one of the crimes they were serving time for. More perplexing is the offender who sincerely believes in their own innocence based on confabulated events, conspiracies, etc. to continue a denial of guilt. These are sad cases.
In the events that got me thinking about this novel, the graduate student who was accused of the sex offenses was acquitted. I don't think anyone was ever convicted for the assaults. I never got to look at the case files or court transcripts. My guess is they would probably be fairly uninteresting.
I can be long-winded when I know that someone wants a conversation about the kind of issues you asked about. Forensic work is emotionally demanding, especially getting beaten up on the stand, or misquoted or misinterpreted in the papers, but it is fascinating and often rewarding. If you can develop thick skin, go for it!
Thanks again for your interest,
Jay
Thank you Jay -
For answering in depth. Almost as interesting as the interview itself.
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